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I Ching on Relationship (KW Oracle #005)

Updated: May 22, 2020

Case Study 005: Relationship

Ms A was introduced a man called Mr X by her bestie not long ago. Apparently, Mr X trying to make Ms A as his partner. Both have been trying to date for a couple of times and Ms A still doesn't feel like starting this romantic relationship. Since Mr X is introduced by her bestie, this makes Ms A a little awkward to refuse further. Furthermore, she would like to see if her own gonna miss out something good. So She wanted to know is Mr X a good choice?




Question: Should I take up this relationship with Mr X?

Setting: Self-self; Object-Mr X; Betwixt-Bestie; Moving as relationship progression


Analyse:

1. Object restricted to self, self generates own hidden-spirits and this hidden-spirits will be restricted to object line again.

➡️ Feel pressured when dating with Mr X. Soon, Ms A will show his unhappy face to Mr X. Not suggest keeping this relationship as it will end up intolerable.


2. Hidden-spirit advent and filled on this coming month

➡️ Next month, Ms A will be started to shows her annoying face to Mr X.


3. Self-line is empty and in hidden moving

➡️ You are currently losing your mind and not sure what to do. But this is only temporary. You will clear up your mind soon.


4. Line six of parent-line is transformed into a returning restriction. (share more secret tips here: this parent line is the same Yin-wood of object-line.)

➡️ Inside deeper of Ms A, she knows that she is very reluctant to have this relationship.


4. Betwixt-line not moving

➡️ Your bestie will not be having any hard feeling if you refuse this relationship and she will help you out.



Suggestion:

Talk nicely about your situation and tell your bestie what you really need. And ask your friend to talk to Mr X.

(At the end, Ms A goes with suggestion and everything seems good)



Little notes not related to this topic:

Our school emphasis on hexagram setting. Very rare is having such practice. I will try to look up hexagram from other people and post it here. So that you could differentiate the difficulty between a hexagram with a setting and without a setting. That's come in the accuracy portion.



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A.K Guru
A.K Guru
Apr 22, 2020

Nice attempt Ognyan 👍 Anyway, In order to make WWG much easier and readable to a wider audience. Would it a better idea if we fixed the “Shi-Yao” as self-line and “ying-Yao” as object-line. 😀

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A.K Guru
A.K Guru
Apr 22, 2020

Hi Jose, First of all, I totally understand what you want to tell me. The matter-element and useful-spirit are hard to distinguish. That is because I never intend to explain it very clear. For any audience that only refers to my videos, they can treat the useful-sprit as the same to matter-element. I don’t think I will explaining anything further from the videos. As it is actually involve something fundamental to the whole framework; and this framework is to leads on "how to provide" solutions. Besides this, it is also the key to read the hexagram with consistent accuracy. In other words, if we predict for the sake of prediction. We could then forget about the concept of matter-element. This is…

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Jose C.
Jose C.
Apr 22, 2020

Dear Alfred,

I understand your point of view. I saw the whole video you are referring to, but it is still difficult to distinguish the difference between the Yong Shen that the classics talk about and the concept of the "matter-element", maybe it's need another additional video explaining the difference. In the classic form of interpretation, at least the one I know, when we ask about matters of love relationships, and the questioner is a woman, Official/Ghost will be the Yong Shen, so we should not only look at Other line but also the Yong Shen (Official). Likewise if the person asking is a man, then the yong shen should be Wife/wealth. From my point of view, I think the interpretation…

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A.K Guru
A.K Guru
Apr 21, 2020

Hi Jose, I think I have already explained that the matter-element and useful-spirit (the Yong shen) is two different but similar ideas in my YouTube channel. The matter-element here is the object line, not officer-line. This hexagram has nothing to do with officer-line. Even it is related to officer-line, Mr A is still not the officer-line (I.e, the officer line is possibly indicating another man) If you see officer as Mr A. Then the reading of this system will be a contradiction as you said. To conclude, need to understand the matter-element. (matter-element ≠ useful-spirit) (Matter-element ≈ useful-spirit)

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Jose C.
Jose C.
Apr 21, 2020

Dear Alfred,


A little note. There is a slight contradiction or confusing elements into hexagram. If we consider Zi water Officer as Yong Shen, or as you like to call him matter-element (xiàng shén), we see that it is strong by Month but dead by Day and in Chen's tomb. But the line of change is auspicious since You metal is vitalizing (sheng) to Official Zi water. Next month's You, this vitalization will be even stronger. Also Zi water Officer comes with Azure or Green dragon. This man seems attractive and of high social status.

There might be a tendency of she, in spite of all, to take an interest in Mr X. in the future. Who knows... Greetings.

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